Yeah, you throw your best shit at it and it’s supposed to come back tri-fold somehow. If it ever ends hopefully that pot of gold will be there. I sure do love what I do.

Well, a lot of people know you of course from Dangerous Toys and Watchtower.

Yeah.

You always seem to have fifty million different side projects so what all do you have going on right now?

Not a whole lot. Really just Broken Teeth has been going on for nine years now. We just released a new record called Electric and it’s doing very well. The only other fun thing I have going is my Judas Priest tribute called Sad Wings. We just played here a few weeks ago at this place (Rockstar Bar in Ft. Worth) with TMA and it was a blast. It was great. I play Rob Halford in a Priest tribute now. That’s fun. I wear the whole gay biker outfit. It’s so awesome. It’s such a good time.

I thought that was kind of funny when people started tripping out because he was gay.

My message to them is fuck you all. Who cares? What are you worried about? Why are you grossed out unless you’re masturbating to Judas Priest already and then you found out one of them was gay? That’s on you. That’s not his fault. That’s not anybody’s fault and you need to fucking grow up because everyone I grew up on is gay. Freddy Mercury, Elton John, Rob Halford. Gay, gay, gay.

And they put out some of the best fucking music.

The best music.

I was so glad when Rob went back with Priest because I went and saw them when they reunited. It was at Smirnoff and there was this kid standing next to me. He had to have been about 16 or 17 years old. I’m 40 and I’m standing next to this kid and he’s going on about how this is so awesome. He was raving on and it’s so great to see kids that young getting into a band like Priest who has been around since the fucking 70’s.

That’s right.

I guess a lot of these kids found out you have to go back in the past to find really good music.

No, I think that they’re just being raised right. I think that we are at the age of kids like that’s parents. I teach vocals at the Paul Green School of Rock and all the parents are my age and all the kids are between eight and 17 years old or whatever and I have a couple of 12 and 13 year old students and that’s all they’re into is old rock and old metal. They love Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. They get assigned music but it’s from Metallica and Slayer to The Rolling Stones and Janis Joplin. There was no Korn mentioned. I like Korn too but you know what I’m talking about. I’m talking about a demographic of music. But things are going real good but I’m not too busy. Dangerous Toys is doing a reunion show later this month in Austin. May 31st at the Red Eye Fly. It’s just a reunion show. We’re not going on tour. We’re not making a new record. It’s just a fun one time thing that we do semi-annually.

I remember when Dangerous Toys came out because I was stationed at Bergstrom Air Force Base in Austin at the time. It just seemed to me like you guys did a few really kickass records and then you went off into other things.

Well, it was pretty much a major record deal where they throw all kinds of money at the record until it sticks at radio and MTV and it worked. But then the climate changed because I think that sort of class of ’89 cock rock sound became really, really fucking watered down. Because I’ll admit that Dangerous Toys probably got a record deal on the coattails of what was happening with Guns N’ Roses. The same way that everybody else in Hollywood got a record deal when Motley Crue broke. It was Motley Crue broke and then all of a sudden there was Ratt and Dokken and everybody else. Same story 15 years later or whatever. With that being said, I think that as you said it kind of fizzled or disappeared or whatever. It just became more and it’s even more so a do it yourself type of world now. Fast forward. Downloading, Internet, CD sales are in the shitter, gas prices, and it’s still whittling away. It’s still going away because nobody has got any money. There’s no developmental deals at record labels anymore. All the major record labels have signed all those really, really bad cock rock bands because of the Guns N’ Roses thing along with all of the really, really good cock rock bands that got signed after the Guns N’ Roses thing. The good ones I would hope to say are still doing music in some form or fashion but it’s just harder to do it and get paid to do it. So I don’t do this obviously because I get paid to do it because I don’t get paid to do it.

You do it because you love to do it.

That’s right. There is nothing else for me. This is it. I am a slave to the music and it sucks for my loved ones because they know that I’m obsessed with all of this rock and roll bullshit. I love it. I give a sermon. I am such an ambassador for it. I make myself sick because I know that I drive people crazy just saying and I say this, every other word is dirty rock and roll can save your soul. I believe in it. I think it’s good for you and healthy and I think that people who don’t have music in their lives need something that makes them happy because songs are like windows in time. They will not let you down ever because if there’s a band that you loved that you grew up with or that you have recently fallen in love with, every time you hear those songs you’re going to feel like you’re sitting next to a friend. Or holding hands with your mother or all of that. They’re windows in time. You’re going to remember these moments forever and ever because of the music that you’re listening to at that time in your life. If you don’t have music in your life, you’re just going to remember whatever it is you’re remembering because there was a car crash happening or something. You see my point.

Absolutely. There’s so much fucked up shit going on in the world, you have to have something.

Well, fucked up shit is going to keep happening and fucked up shit has always been happening even before we were here.

Oh, I know. Someone told me that the 9/11 thing was the first time in history that there was a terrorist attack. Hell, the day I was born, August 19 of 1967, somebody was suffering from a terrorist attack. What the fuck.

Oh, yeah. They just think there’s a spin on everything since then. Bullshit. Auschwitz. Chew on that piece of gum for a second. That’s a terrorist attack. Hostage situations happen every day. Terrorist attacks have been happening since before we knew what time was.

My dad is Cherokee and Choctaw and I think what happened to his ancestors was terrorism.

Same thing.

You guys just put out a record. Why don’t you tell me a little bit about that gem that is supposed to be this really bad rip off of AC/DC or this really good rip off of AC/DC.

Yeah, it just depends on what review you happen to read.

I’m hoping that what they actually mean by that is that it’s the same kind of nice, sleazy sex and rock and roll and partying shit. I hope that’s what they mean by that.

It’s definitely good times. There are no ballads. If you get technical, it’s like five or six tunes from our earlier studio records redone because of a couple of lineup changes and the lineup changes I’m talking about have happened in the past two or three years.

Oh yeah, Paul Lydell is gone.

Paul Lydell left a couple of years ago. We took his roommate, they were roommates, and they actually worked together at the Austin Guitar School and Paul stayed home and David came with us. There were no auditions or anything like that. It was like “he knows the songs. Come on David.” It’s an all in the family sort of thing. Paul’s a fantastic guitar player and he still does shows with us in Dangerous Toys. Paul’s still a member of Dangerous Toys. Me and Paul started the band. We wrote all the material together so Paul is still pretty much, he may be more ghostly now because he’s not physically there, but he’s still there because we’re playing a lot of his riffs.

He’s spiritually there.

Oh, yeah. Big time. It’s all good and it all worked out really well. With the addition of David everything became a little bit sharper and faster and meaner. So without losing the sex, drugs, rock and roll, throw your horns up, we’re going to tear the roof off the fucking place, fist pumping rock and roll, that’s really what it’s about. With the older material redone and then the new songs, the rest of the record finishes out with a bunch of new shit. That came out February 8th of this year and it’s doing well in Europe.

Four out of five K’s.

In Kerrang. That’s right. That’s the coveted review. Then as far as North America, we’re basically doing the distribution ourselves. The stores that it’s in, if you found it either online or in a handful of stores in the Mid West or just anywhere in North America, we pretty much put it there. That’s that cutting out of the middle man. You sell the CD, you put the money in your fucking pocket. It’s a different world.

The record companies always complain that they’re meeting their demise because of illegal downloading. Maybe they’re meeting their demise because they have these corporate executives who want to buy a Maserati every year and they’re not really paying their artists what they should be paying for the material they create.

You can come up with any anecdote you want for any reason that any business might be failing but you always have to remember this. And this is just normal and it goes with life and everyday. There’s always a motherfucker right behind you that’s going to low ball and take your job away from you because they’re going to do it for cheaper. Whether they’re going to do a better, the same, or a worse job than what you do, they will do it for lower because that’s just where it’s gone. If you have a product, make it the best you can and sell it yourself. End of story and that’s what America is about.

Or what it should be about anyway.

That’s right. It’s not about trying to sell everybody out and beat everybody up and move out of the way because I’m going to do it cheaper and better than you and all of this cutthroat bullshit. Everyone needs to have a slice and if we could all just play on the big show all together at the same time, to put it more into rock and roll which is what we’re talking about here, then that’s great. Rocklahoma is making bands pay to play now. Bands aren’t even getting paid at Rocklahoma unless you’re Poison or Ratt.

You have to pay?

Yeah, they want Dangerous Toys but they want us to pay $5,000 to play. They want us to pay to play. So that’s where it’s all going.

Oh, my God. Who can afford that?

Well, some of the bands are paying it. Some of the bands paid to get on there. They paid that much or more. Don’t quote me on that but that’s what’s happening. There’s all sorts of sublet booking going on for festivals and a lot of bands pay to get on there. Ozzfest, people pay to get on there.

The last Ozzfest, you didn’t even have to pay to go to it. They actually got corporate sponsors.

Yeah, they got all their money from corporate sponsors and the corporate sponsors were the record labels paying the Osbournes for their bands to be on a stage there at 10 A.M. No thank you, I don’t play rock and roll at 10 A.M. I go to bed at 10 A.M. Anyone who likes my music is not awake at 10 A.M.

That’s definitely something you want to hear later in the evening after a couple of Heinekens.

Fucking A right. But yeah, Electric is great and we’re selling our rock and roll the way that we want to sell our rock and roll. Having anyone want to help as long as they’re not trying to rip us off, we’re all about it. Check it out. You can go to our MySpace. You can find Broken Teeth online real, real easy. It’s out there. If you want it you can find it.

Yeah, I was jamming out to the MySpace.

Very cool.

I know you guys were supposed to be doing some touring.

We had to cancel eight shows because one of us had some court dates we couldn’t get out of and everybody can understand that. We probably saved a lot of money on gas by not doing those eight shows and eight shows isn’t much. We’re going to make it all up in July. We’re going back out in July.

I’m glad you guys kept the Texas dates.

Well, those are easy. You can drive to those. You just can’t get back to the courthouse in Austin, Texas if you drive to Nashville. Plane fare and gas prices are just not worth trying to crunch those numbers.

Flying is such a fucking hassle. Are you still doing the KISS tribute band, SSIK?

We just recorded “I Stole Your Love” for a KISS tribute that’s coming out next month on Versailles Records. SSIK did “I Stole Your Love” for that. We play like once a year. We don’t play very often. It’s just totally for fun.

Are you still doing the Hell Pig thing?

You know, that came back up. Killjoy is still an old buddy of mine since ‘84. He’s a big Watchtower fan and he still wants to do that. I wrote one song and it was just a demo version or something he was supposed to cut vocals on and then he got real busy with his stuff and it just never happened but we were dead serious. We were dead set on it there for a couple of months but that’s been years ago.

That shows you what all I remember.

Yeah, a steel trap. That’s a good way to be.

Then you had the Gahdzilla Motor Company thing.

Haven’t done that since 2002.

I still take that CD out and listen to it.

Those are some great songs. Maybe one day that stuff will finally come out. There’s some great recordings of that stuff floating around.

I hope so. You do have a very unique voice that isn’t like anyone else. You sure don’t sound like the front man for AC/DC.

No, even though I try, I don’t.

Any other thoughts or comments?